Comments on: Preparing for Mana Regen Changes in 3.2

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Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:03:32 +0000

[...] change the way I play her, with the changes in mana return and the 5% nerf to intellect. Siha goes into the changes in fantastic detail at Banana Shoulders, complete with the crying holy paladin picture. Which means it’s bad. So at the moment, [...]

By: Vort

Vort — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:15:03 +0000

If you want focus magic I can make it happen… sif Warnie needs it

By: Upia

Upia — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:41:12 +0000

What really concerns me, is that most of my gear, if not all, has crit, haste, and spellpower. I literally have 47mp5. I’m afraid I’m going to be so stripped come 3.2 I won’t be able to raid with my guild competitively. I don’t want to be the healer they carry because I’m oom and can’t sustain. But I think it’s unfair of blizzard to allow us to be ok without mp5 and then decide we need to focus on it, after two tiers of raiding. Do we honestly need to have an intellect nerf, an illumination nerf, AND the replenishment nerf?? The spirit regen nerf doesn’t even compare.

I feel as if they equate not running oom as making fights easier, and if they think the only way they can make encounters hard enough is to continuously place restrictions on healers, then maybe they should take another look at their fights. We’ve been allowed to be this way for so long, and suddenly we’re the problem? It’s infuriating.

By: kenau

kenau — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:31:26 +0000

although my healadin has a way to go in gearing up, I’m really quite worried about the impact on pally healing: the mana regen dynamic will not match the way we spend mana on heals: and if we do not spend mana on HL heals, then the tank dies – the HL spam is sometimes a waste, but you can’t not cast it, in case the tank doesn’t dodge/mitigate.

The end result? fewer paladins in raids: we can’t AOE heal, we can’t heal on the run, we have no automated heals. Now we will be OOM, and thus effectively useless. Why not take a drood instead? Or a priest? Much more value for money.

By: Brangwen

Brangwen — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:30:23 +0000

Siha, I can number crunch against my gear if you are interested (4 piece T8 int stacked, I keep passing on the head for everyone else, and the maces…. but I know you understand me there :P). I will try to stick with the crit/int stacking, as the maths in the back of my head is whispering that it will still be effective even in 3.2. I shall be up for comparing talent trees :)

I will get up my WWS on wed, and pop up some stats about bubbles, crit and MP5 sometime after that.

And silk – you are spot on there, I often meleed for mana in TBC (was a big advocate of holy pallies getting down and dirty), but in 3.1 I really haven’t needed to, which is perhaps why it wasn’t factored into Siha’s numbers. Ranged judgements FTW!

But hard modes, not so much oom as using all the tricks to NOT go oom. We will be tackling Thorim hard mode this week, I will see how we go there with mana. I am ret in hodir hardmode as Pallies really are the last healing class you want to take in there, so that will be no help!

I predict more bubble for pallies in future, BTW to deal with “healing” on the move.

By: Glint

Glint — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:50:34 +0000

i’m really glad you’re posting again! i missed you so much that i’ve come out of constant lurking to say so. This post in particular sums up what is helpful and necessary to me about your insights. You have a way of explaining things that doesn’t oversimplify or overcomplicate matters. You don’t treat your readers like morons or post in a way that is impossibly mathy. i was so pleased to see your post that i forgot to weep about the changes. Thanks!

By: Silk

Silk — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:35:21 +0000

Orcstar, I am given to understand that Pallies doing hard mode encounters do go OOM. On normal modes NO healers are going OOM (shammies may be an exception to this but they are getting buffed hard in 3.2).

Certainly, my limited experience of 10 man hard modes (2 healing) shows that mana management becomes a significant issue in those fights.

What I don’t understand is the motivation behind these changes. Gutting HL and pushing FoL doesn’t suddenly make FoL viable. It STILL doesn’t heal anything like enough to even cover raid damage.

We’re being pushed out of the tank healing niche (or our ability to perform in that niche is being strongly nerfed while other classes – druids and shammies – are having their single target healing buffed) yet we still don’t have the tools to raid heal / heal on the move.

I’ll probably post on something similar to this – I did a breakdown of my regen on my guild forums not long ago. One thing that I do notice immediately about the above parses is that Siha isn’t meleeing for mana that often (this could be because of the particularly fights of course). Its incredible the amount of mana that this regens (hint situationally its more than replenishment!).

By: Det

Det — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:31:56 +0000

You hit the nail on the hammer which I do not think most people realize which is the difference between the mana regen mechanics of illumination and mp5. Illumination scales with more healing output, making it fluid and dynamic in relation to the amount of healing required while Mp5 is static and receives more benefit from a fight with steady incoming damage. Although, like I commented in your more recent post about the “new” holy paladin spec, these changes sync well with the new build and allow for mp5 to be more useful in our style of healing.

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By: Mondays are for OOM

Mondays are for OOM — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:42:20 +0000

[...] Siha has a fantastic post today And I’m quite thankful for it, I think. She outlines exactly how to calculate the extent of the Paladin healing nerfs in relation to the buffs involved. I’ve done the math for my last Ulduar 10 and Ulduar 25 runs. This week I’ll be running with a different spec (54/17/0) just to see what happens, as that’s the spec I want to eventually use in 3.2 (I think). I’ll re-crunch the numbers after this week’s raids, in an effort to postpone weeping all over my desk. [...]