Comments on: Poll: What Kind of PvE Do You Prefer?

By: BitterCupOJoe

BitterCupOJoe — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:23:34 +0000

For me, the 10 mans just “feel” more heroic. That’s not to belittle the effort that people put into 25 man raids, both from logistical and skill standpoints. However, 25+ raids seem like armies, not groups of heroes. It’s probably just that I come from a tabletop background, but if something takes more than 10 people to accomplish in a game, there’s fewer moments for an individual player to shine, and it seems more and more like the individual fades into the background.

By: Atruck

Atruck — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:34:13 +0000

Whatever gives me the best gear is always where I’ve wanted to be. I’ve never had much concern for an intimate experience because many of the people I play with have been together since pre-BC, some of since a few months after launch. I just want to have the best everything. And while I can’t say I’ve really been challenged as a healer in 25-mans as much as our 10-man runs or some with some really terrible heroic groups, drilling the fights into 25 people’s skulls carries its own challenge and satisfaction.

By: Asara

Asara — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:31:43 +0000

Right now, I’d have to say that for raiding, I prefer 10-mans. For no other reason than the fact that 25’s lag my computer all to heck and back with all of the AOE and craziness going on. Pallies consecrating, Death Knights Death and Decaying, Mages Blizzarding, Warlocks Rain of Fireing (I think that’s the right spell). It’s just too much for my poor computer to handle, especially considering I share my bandwidth with my hubby, who is generally in the same raids. I have to keep my spell detail up so I can see things on the floor, but at 3FPS, I’m probably dead by the time I see them.
I loved 25’s in BC though.
I tend to avoid 5-mans, unless they’re all-guild, and those are few and far between. So it’s 10’s and soloing/duoing with my hubby for me!

By: Phyllixia

Phyllixia — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:24:31 +0000

You don’t have a “Soloing raids, 5mans and heroics” category; I’m disappointed! :P

On a more serious note: I liked the old 40mans too; it was fun to chat with that many people at once. That said, it really depends on my mood… sometimes I prefer to solo and sometimes raid or do heroics. Variety is always good :)

By: Syrana

Syrana — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:27:47 +0000

I like to see what I can, but I really prefer solo’ing or small groups of 2-3 questing. I enjoy 5, 10, 25man content, but just don’t really seek it out. But then again, I’m too chatty sometimes, I think. And other times, I just want to relax.. even if it means I don’t “get anything done” for the evening. I hate the idea of someone having to count on me to make a run happen unless I know ‘for sure’ I can commit to signing up.

By: BobTurkey

BobTurkey — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:42:36 +0000

I’m really enjoying 25s atm. Partially because i’m in a casual guild who always has new people coming to the raid. You can carry a couple of newbies in 25s, but in 10s its a pain.

@blogoflight & rat – Yeah i’d be moving on personally. Joking around is great (and we do plenty), but causing wipes just pisses people off. Especially in a casual environment where people usually have very limited play time/s.

By: rat

rat — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:42:07 +0000

BlogofLight, you have my sympathy. I too am on an RP server (Blackwater Raiders) that’s one of the last in progression. Fortunately we’ve got a handful of good guilds that take progression seriously (more on Horde than Alliance side–I’m Horde) and thank goodness that I was able to get myself into one of these. Surprisingly, though, since WotLK came out some of the other guilds have stepped it up a bit too, though not many have gotten any of the “hard” achievements (I think only three guilds (grr…not mine yet) have gotten Undying, three (including mine) have Sarth3D 25 man, and only one (again not mine) has Sarth3D 10 man).

I would never be able to put up with the kind of asshattery you describe. The second time somebody face-pulled Sarth on purpose, that would be a /gquit for me. Yeah, it’s “just a game,” but in a 25-man you’ve got 24 other real people who have to waste their time dealing with idiots like that. No, thanks, life’s too short.

By: BlogofLight

BlogofLight — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:23:13 +0000

Wow! Interesting to see so many people who share my sentiments on this matter. I agree with what most people said about 10s vs 25s, though the main reason our guild doesn’t personally do them is due to the type of server we’re on.
Sisters of Elune is one of the last in progression for all of the servers. While my guild is mostly re-rolls from a PvE server, the rest of the server is painfully casual. It was very hard for us to even fill the last few spots for our 10man team, I would hate to try and find 15 other people who are on the same skill level as us. It would be a nightmare.
I did do some 25s to help a friends guild, but for the most part they had a very laid back approach to it. “Dude its just a game” was their motto, which is fine, accept you had people who thought it was funny to face pull, purposely stand in whirlwinds, fall off the pipe and even one time decided to pull Sarth while we were on the first mini-boss. I could see how this might be comical the first time, maybe even the second, but it was 4 straight hours of things like this. No Thank You.
I don’t mind 25s for the most part, I would fill in if someone I knew needed me, but I wouldn’t want to organize my own by any means. After the jackassery from that week of 25s, it was so nice to go into my 10man group and do WELL.
It is starting to get a bit easier, but when Ulduar comes out that should change things and hopefully we’ll be one of the firsts to get through the content =)

By: Hana

Hana — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:24:00 +0000

While I do both, in all honesty I prefer 10-mans because it’s easier to get together a really skilled group of 10 people than a really skilled group of 25 people. I think my guild has a better chance of beating 10-man Sarth 3D (even though it’s supposed to be harder) than 25-man Sarth 3D just because not everyone that makes up our 25-man team is as strong a player as our best 10. They’re still good folks, but it’s easier to find a 10-man group for achievement runs and doing the really hard stuff than getting 25-people with the same skill level.

By: Brendel

Brendel — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:21:43 +0000

I run both 10- and 25-man raids as a holy pally, but I prefer 10-man runs as it feels more challenging. In my guild you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a holy pally and a 25-man run with four of us is just plain boring. However, in 10-mans, we prefer to mix up the classes more so that we have one of each if at all possible and it allows each of us to “shine” and do what we do best, so to speak. Lastly, it feels a bit more intimate – the prep for a fight doesn’t take as long, loot doesn’t take as long and it’s easier to get 10 people in the same place at the same time and get going.