Comments on: Drama and Woe Averted in Healadin Land

By: Taraske

Taraske — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:12:04 +0000

After reading a lot of forum posts today I feel pretty sad for my holy pally. It just shows the state the holy tree is at when you see people discussing to go 28/0/43, 28/43/0 or 15/43/13. And tbh, if no major changes to deep holy are incoming I see myself either speccing 28/0/43 or 28/43 for either an offensive healer with quite some utility or a defensive caster with huge crits (the sta->sd and +30% crit heals are nice).
It has the nice side effect that leveling is a lot faster and you can heal/dps/tank with a gear swap.
Most hilarious thing I have seen is the suggestion to go 20/0/51 and go for hunter mail with int, ap and crit on it for a true hibrid.

By: Cannberry

Cannberry — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:18:23 +0000

I called it Bacon of Light First I swear! Its been my away message since Beacon was announced. ;]

In a way I’m glad I don’t have access to the Beta, you all have gotten to mess around with awesome spells like Infusion, and when they get nerfed you feel like you lost something. Where as I will probably be super stoked by what ever I get in Live. Thanks for going through the emotional rollercoaster for us!

By: Korath

Korath — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:45:18 +0000

@Siha – You are quite correct I didn’t think about the +8% crit. I suppose there actually isn’t any reason to go deeper than 5 points into Prot (kings) anymore so those extra points have to go somewhere :)

Meh I only have a Tankadin & Retadin (healer is a resto shammy) so overall the changes to divine plea are all good :D

By: Siha

Siha — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:25:45 +0000

@Korath – Yeah, I didn’t mention it as it’s a Ret changed – but it does affect us, indeed.

That said, I think it’s still worth the points – most people are going to be putting 18+ points into Ret anyway for the 8% crit, and even 33% of base mana is going to be 974 mana returned at 70 (though you can’t get IoL/JotW until 78) and 1450 mana returned at 80. Nothing to sneeze at, for the cost of a Judgement’s mana and a GCD.
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However, with the new DP I don’t expect mana to be a huge issue any more – still requiring management, sure, but not totally starving – so JotW looks a lot less attractive by comparison.

By: evawes1

evawes1 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:14:40 +0000

You know that the picture of the Pally looks like its giving us the finger? Don’t know if that was intentional, but its perfect :)

The nerf to Infusion of Light is dissapointing because of how long they took to do it. Why change it so late in the beta when it existed from the start? It was kinda OP, but it was awesome and fun.

I’m just soooo glad that Divine Plea is changed, and to be even better than before. I couldn’t care about it being dispellable as I prefer PvE, and when I play PvP I play more casually and in BG.

By: Korath

Korath — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:08:02 +0000

One thing that you didn’t mention was the change to Judgements of the Wise, this has been ‘nerfed’ to now give 33% of BASE mana making it better for ret and worse for everyone else (and prob not worth the 33 ret points needed).

By: Christopher

Christopher — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:07:52 +0000

The state of the class is still horribly broken. With more than 80 days of /played on my main paladin healer, I take it personally.

By: Siha

Siha — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:05:11 +0000

@Treylah – I don’t think it’s a gaffe; she’s called it Bacon a number of times in the past. :)
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@Revaan – I agree. I was really looking forward to the fun of IoL; now it’s just another Light’s Grace procced a different way. Ho-hum. I’m hoping they reimplement it but make it an instant FoL, not HL – that’d be okay.

By: Revaan

Revaan — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:02:59 +0000

Honestly, I didn’t really care about the Divine Plea, but I’m still very disappointed in what happened to Infusion of Light. That looked to be the big spec-defining talent for the later 10 points of Holy. Now, for that 1 second reduction…it doesn’t really seem worth it to put points into deep Holy now.

By: Treylah

Treylah — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:59:28 +0000

I was actually wondering how many people saw GC’s Bacon of Light gaffe. Good to hear though, as I thought the 100% healing reduction was incredibly stiff.